I haven’t had much to say about Jim Humble’s “Miracle Mineral Supplement” or MMS in quite some time. The documentary that I produced on the subject was pirated, chopped up and placed on YouTube a few years ago by someone who felt it more important that the information get out to the world than that I earn an income for my efforts.
I took no actions against this person. Didn’t complain about it or denigrate. As far as I know, the video is still on YouTube. While I’ve yet to take the DVD site down, I stopped selling the MMS DVD quite some time ago.
Like shifting sands, the MMS landscape has continued to change. New players have emerged, while others, for one reason or another, have stepped aside or moved on.
Daniel Smith’s life continues to hang in the balance as he “fights” for his freedom from being made an example of by the FDA, because a non-descript species of chlorine dioxide, which can be a powerful “free radical,” is claimed by Humble to be the chief operating agent in the “battle” against “bad” pathogens. Currently on house arrest, he wears an ankle device that constantly monitors his whereabouts.
In conversations, Daniel has sometimes sounded, to me, to be more concerned about protecting Jim Humble’s “legacy” than his own freedom, even if it means perpetuating the party line. I certainly am not privy to any behind-the-scenes help that “the Church” gives Daniel, but Archbishop Humble doesn’t appear to be as concerned about him. Editorially, he’s been generally silent, with only a casual reference somewhere near a request for donations. You wouldn’t know that Daniel’s plight, along with that of his wife and children, and Chris and Tammy Olsen still weigh on his mind, and that he is doing everything that he can to help them regain their freedom.
A series of articles published in the U.S. Observer sparked some interest, but they appear unable or unwilling to write unless a sufficient amount of money has been raised and passed their way, paying homage to another “god without” that keeps positive steps from taking place.
This video, and the part II that follows it, includes a recorded conversation with the energy of money, channeled through Cynthia Williams. The audio isn’t great, but the truth touches deeply. Notice, I believe in the second video, what the Money God says about “neutrality.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtC4vLOo4dw
No one should be prosecuted or persecuted for distributing what is understood to be a harmless product. The problem is that said understanding about the Chlorine Dioxide Anion or Chlorite Matrix isn’t universal, yet. The FDA went after MMS, in the proxy of Daniel Smith et al, on the specious claim that it, as a precursor to the generation of chlorine dioxide, is always harmful, in spite of the fact that results don’t support the claim. Without the clarification that is available, there is reasonable evidence that exposure to certain species of chlorine dioxide could cause harm.
Ideally, this would be Humble’s opportunity to set the record straight and help all of humanity, even the medical system, learn and embrace something beneficial. However, the standard MMS theory places no distinction on various chlorine dioxide species, and different behaviors based on formulation method. Neither does the FDA. Herein lies the problem… a bigger one for MMS, with Smith and company as potential collateral damage, than for the FDA.
If the science that Grant Maanum brought to my attention does indeed apply to MMS, thereby confirming that no long-lasting free radical chlorine dioxide species is ever ingested in the protocol, and no disrupting, destructive, harmful chemical compounds are ever introduced into the body, like the ones the FDA routinely approves after corporations shell out millions in protection fees, an opportunity to raise the public and medical consciousness of MMS in a positive way could be gained at the very least.
The FDA’s gestapo-type methods and practices are another issue connected to this matter. They have no legal or moral right to enforce the use of toxic substances on human beings, and prevent, obstruct, and prosecute against those who develop and seek to use beneficial products.
Does anyone see this happening?
Does anyone see this ongoing holocaust that literally hides in plain sight?
Does anyone see how we’ve all been sold the “cruel-aid” and taught to think it’s good for us? (“Ask your doctor if ___________ is right for you!”)
Last night I went into a supermarket, and every person at the checkout counter wore a black T-shirt on which the following message was printed: “Ask me about FLU shots!”
Now what would a cashier at the checkout counter know about how a flu shot might benefit me? If I were gullible enough to ask, and they answered, would they not be offering “medical advice” without a license?
But then, they wouldn’t have to worry about the FDA, because they don’t prosecute for such trivialities. The advice that the checkout counter person might give would further the sickification of the population. Giving “medical advice” that actually helps and empowers people is where so many conscientious people have run afoul of “the System.” These are signs that the System itself now needs changing, but it won’t happen by “fighting” it. It should, however, be acknowledged for what it is.
The health care system, and the agencies that guide and administer it, is not about “health.” It is about the causation, management of, and billing for “dis-ease.” It is an arm of a fraudulent governmental structure, as is the education system, the environmental protection department, the “injustice” department, as well as the military offense department.
This is not about “money.” It’s about control. It’s not about “keeping the peace,” since those who control the corporate entities above system have been trying to start a fire for war. The goal is to prevent you from waking up to discover You. I refer to Grand Cosmic Being that is referred to in Chapter 3 of The Door of Everything.
“The enemy” isn’t “over there,” it’s potentially within every human being. It’s not a monster, but it is behind many monstrous and heinous actions that we take or allow due to indifference. It is fear, greed, divisiveness, suspicion, and inequitude. It is the sense that we are powerless to change an untenable situation, which is untrue.
The MMS crusade operates within this same thought bubble; the “David vs. Goliath” battle to “fight” the big guys, which they’ll need to raise money to do while continuing to assert their contention that chlorine dioxide is the “safe” killing agent.
Evolve the explanation of MMS chemistry in a way that shows that it works by harmless processes that empower the cell and restores its natural energy production process, and is resonant with university research that goes back decades (1971)? Don’t hold your breath.
“Evolving the explanation” of MMS would mean declaring that the species of ClO2 that is produced in the MMS recipe appears to affect an immediate electron transfer/exchange process when the light acid is introduced to the sodium chlorite (NaClO2) solution. The electron transfer/exchange is what causes the changes in pairing, as well as polarity. The Chlorine Dioxide Anion (ClO2–), which is 100% beneficial, bioavailable, bio-necessary, and therapeutic at the cellular level, is one product of these biochemical reactions. It is so therapeutic that cellular respiration and energy generation (ATP), through the Krebs cycle, is kick-started.
Jim Humble has “corrected” me on numerous occasions, saying that oxygen has nothing to do with why MMS works. He literally thinks that the “bad guy” pathogen is the problem that, once eradicated, allows the patient to ride into the sunset with their health restored.
The chlorine dioxide anion delivers oxygen in a “stable” state into the cell, as it is bound with a chloride ion (Cl–). The cell needs both. An energy exchange and electron transfer occurs, wherein carbon dioxide, CO2 is “exhaled” from the cell itself as a waste product.
Transcending ‘the battle’ and fear
The present description of MMS chemistry remains mired in cops and robbers, “good guy/bad guy” metaphors, where the “heroes” congratulate themselves for destroying the “enemy,” which is thought to be the pathogen. It is seductive because we have believed in the dualistic polarities of “good” and “evil” for so long, the story seems plausible. However, we are a singularity, a whole that has aspects that are complementary, not opposing. Great power comes from the harmonization of the Totality, and no longer “battling” among the aspects.
In the same way that the medical industry takes credit for healing when a patient survives its medications, Humble takes credit for “curing” thousands with MMS. A still generally under-informed client then puts all of his or her hopes in MMS, with scant consideration to the central and empowering role that one’s own attitude and intention plays in the healing process, and to the disease creation and susceptibility matrix.
This is where taking responsibility for one’s own proclivity to be fearful, comes into the picture. The fearful person will always be the first victim of their fear, because fear itself weakens the immune system. Feeding on, or coddling one’s fear, maintains its sense of entitlement and appropriateness, when in fact, through our lack of self-understanding, it is part of the problem.
I began stepping away from the original MMS story after being presented credible and independently supported university research that offered an explanation/interpretation that:
- explained why MMS is indeed therapeutic,
- proved that nothing harmful is actually being ingested, and certainly not “bleach” as the FDA asserted,
- vindicated Jim Humble, and
- strengthened Daniel’s case against what were clearly trumped up charges.
Well, things didn’t turn out that way. MMS is continuing to grow, under Archbishop Humble’s leadership. Successes are still being reported, of which I have no doubt, and am elated. You could say that by embracing the alternate theory that was introduced to me by Grant Maanum, I took myself out of Jim’s good graces. I’m okay with that, since ultimately, I have to live with myself, and through my own understanding.
While not forgotten, or even dismissed, MMS is no longer a focus for me. However, this letter below, written by Mr. Humble, warranted the response that you’ve read to this point, and that which follows. The article, titled, MMS: Now I’m a Trojan Horse, was published April 10, 2013.
Submitted on 2013/09/19 at 4:54 pm:
Adam’s claim that he is not responsible for the manner in which he delivers the truth to people is stupid and childish.
I’ve never claimed non-responsibility for the manner that I communicate. Indeed, I feel it my responsibility to be as clear and forthright as possible, to the best of my understanding. Since understanding itself is transitory, adjustments in one’s position are to be expected. Some will be minor, and some will be major. Otherwise you wouldn’t be working on the fourth edition of the same book.
Understanding also means remaining open-minded and willing to listen when greater or deeper understandings are presented. When my “understanding” of MMS chemistry changed vis-à-vis the Chlorite Matrix, after numerous, and you might say exhaustive conversations with Grant Maanum, it was, to me, vindication of, and support for Jim Humble’s discovery.
From these very beneficial dialogs, I also comprehended the meaning of that little distinction between two molecules as represented by chlorine dioxide ClO2 (@ 1.5V) and its stabilized form, the chlorine dioxide anion, notated as ClO2– (@ 0.954V). Both had been mentioned in all the research papers, but their chemical, electrical, and behavioral significance had not yet become apparent to me.
The story of “bad bacteria” and viruses, or “pathogens,” never sat well with me. It suggests that the microorganism exists for the purpose of creating disease. My understanding now is that this is not true. Life exists to protect, support, prolong, and perpetuate life. Life will always be, and it will always be changing. Therefore, life forms that come are facilitators of change. We are directors of change, if we awaken to this natural capacity. We can take cues from life, and make internal adjustments that make the quality of our life changes worse, or better.
If I didn’t sound squirrely enough, let me say right here that in my present understanding, there are no “bad” microorganisms, nor do “diseases” exist. The concept of a “disease” creates an ideological framework created by the medical industry that facilitates ease of adoption and medical “treatment.” In other words, it is essentially “intellectual property.” Its power is in the trust you give to the medical system, its assessment of cause, as well as its solutions, and rationalizations about why they work as poorly as they do.
Changing our Self-View Changes Our Worldview
A medical doctor will look at a tumor and suggest that it is harmful, dangerous, or even “malignant,” which is another way of characterizing it as evil. If the tumor is considered to be “evil,” without calling it so, eradicating it “by any means necessary” short of killing the host, becomes appropriate.
Doctors, the chief interfaces to the medical system rely on fear to “help” the patient make their decision. They (the doctors) stoke it (fears, primarily of death), suggesting to the patient all the dire consequences that can happen if their approach isn’t taken.
Sound familiar?
Contrast that view with one that sees the tumor as a natural defensive mechanism created by the body to localize and contain some truly dangerous inorganic foreign material that we’ve been ingesting or exposed to on a long-term basis, such as aspartame, MSG, chlorination byproducts called Trihalomethanes (THMs), fluoride, or any number of others. The amount of foreign material that the body routinely processes while maintaining some semblance of health, is overwhelming and amazing. Yet, if you know what can be done about it, either with or without MMS, you’re less likely to be “scared.”
Under the medical approach, the tumor is “the enemy.” Take it out and hope to survive. It doesn’t matter how it is done. It is presumed that no better approach exists. The only problem is since causal factors are not examined, then behaviors, environmental metrics, and attitudes, go unchanged. So the likelihood of the tumor’s return is high, and you have no insights on how to prevent it.
You’re not free… which is exactly where they want you. No freedom from worry, no peace, which creates a state of perpetual dis-ease, waiting for the next ax to drop.
With the second approach, an imbalance is understood to exist, either metabolic, energetic, or informational. (GM foods alter informational metrics at the genome level.) The tumor is also understood to be a natural creation of the body, which is acting in our defense. (The doctor wouldn’t tell you that, as the body’s natural intelligence is not considered relevant.) The tumor then serves as a wakeup call for you, “the Host,” to restore balance in your life in whatever form is needed.
The most basic molecular level remedies are water and minerals, as they affect energy delivery, waste removal, and cellular messaging. The fundamental non-molecular level is the attitude and belief, which will change as self-knowledge, harmonization, and love both rises and spreads.
A larger problem than “bad” viruses, bacteria, or pathogens, are missing minerals, enzymes, and microorganisms that Nature naturally provides us, such as aerobic bacteria that would normally be in raw milk, if it were not systematically killed off by pasteurization and homogenization. Aerobic microflora are also killed off each time antibiotics are prescribed, when vaccines are administered, and other chemical-based prescriptions are taken.
The dairy industry has strayed far from nature. Even “organic” milk is nutritionally retarded, as are many organic foods.
In addition to aerobic microorganisms, which themselves would manage populations of anaerobic counterparts, raw, unpasteurized milk includes enzymes, which are essential to a myriad of critical metabolic functions that will maintain health, or accelerate healing. You wonder, given how important both aerobic microorganisms and enzymes are to human health, not to mention natural vitamin D, why a dairy industry and government alphabet agencies have standardized and mandated pasteurization and homogenization as the norms.
The switch to impostor foods is not limited to dairy by a long shot. An impostor food is any food that is presented as such, but is nutritionally deficient. In the same way that the dairy industry adopted methods that made their standard product almost devoid of any nutritional value, commercial farming, or agribusiness, has done the same with our foods.
Ours is a line of generations that was first suckered in by the notion of “Better Living Through Chemistry,” a slogan of E. I. du Pont de Nemours and Company from 1935-1982. Interesting enough, since 1999 their slogan has been “The Miracles of Science.”
Lindane, a neurotoxin, was first registered as a pesticide in agriculture the 1940’s, and as a pharmaceutical in 1951. While the chemical isn’t produced in the U.S. today, it is imported. Lindane remains an ingredient in some lotion and shampoo products, particularly to control head lice or “scabies.” Imagine washing your child’s hair with this FDA and EPA approved substance! It’s “good bug/bad bug” thinking at work again.
Lindane and a long list of other toxic formulations, are not just FDA approved, they are FDA protected. Despite the Lindane product being recalled in other countries, Federal health regulators rejected a petition to ban the product in the unlawful, invalid, unconstitutional United States of America Corporation territories. (See article.)
I knew nothing about lindane a year ago, but Grant did. He not only knew its chemistry; he knew its history. Its genealogy. In other words, what it became after the damage became undeniable and the inevitable bans followed, and where it is still allowed to lurk in our society today.
Why are we so quick to dismiss “non-credentialed” people when so much disinformation that we currently operate under as truth come from those who are under the control of credential-givers, associations, and agencies?
People who care about the harm or damage that they see and want to fix it will be passionate, if not always objective, or even “nice” in how their express the exception that they take with the status quo, or those who apparently oppose it. Grant is one such passionate person, as is one James V. Humble. As am I.
But I digress. More from Archbishop Humble about me.
Just like it would be stupid to stand up in a theater and cry, FIRE, FIRE if merely a paper were burning. Any and all people who were killed on the way out of that heater would be the fault of the person calling fire. Well, Adam and Grant have been calling FIRE FIRE for several years now claiming it is the truth and that they thus have the right to holler fire about MMS. But their truth is no more proven than MMS truth and there are some pretty brilliant scientists saying that Grants truth might not be so brilliant after all. Well there are some truths that their theory seems to have missed. I am rewriting my book now to be somewhat more effective with some more “truth”. I don’t like to call it truth, but would rather say newly discovered facts.
It would have been nice to include even one specific “fact” that illustrates his point. Instead, I’m hearing a promo for Jim’s next book.
I will tell you one of the ways to discovering some real useful truth about MMS or any other technology is to go do it instead of talk about it. In this case, go out there in the jungle and treat several thousand cases of malaria and Cancer and hepatitis C and several dozen other diseases, then make it fit your lab theories. You haven’t treated or cured anyone. That’s what I did and then when I got back here you guys, Grant and Adam write up discussions on how MMS can be harmful and scare a significant number of people away and then say you are not responsible for their continued suffering because they didn’t take the years to learn what you guys know.
As I have written quite some time ago, Grant has indeed used MMS successfully, first to cure HIMSELF, as well as others. He is probably the only person that I know who has had direct experience with lung damage due to chlorine dioxide gas exposure in Kamloops, BC, where he used to live. He found MMS in his quest to remediate the congestive condition that had evolved in his lungs.
While I was among the first group that traveled to Haiti on my first trip to the Dominican Republic and the MMS workshop, where we went out on a health mission and worked with a group of Korean/American doctors, I have never had any allusions that I had “cured” anyone with MMS. What I have done is what I’m doing now, explaining what it is and how it works in the best way that I know how. I have been another voice for MMS, one that is clearly not under Archbishop Humble’s “control.” In fact, my observations and explanations have helped people all over the world take more than a side-show look at MMS.
Outside of reserving the presence of my own opinion – which was a good thing as long as it was in the bounds of Archbishop Humbles approval – I refused to center my life around MMS. I chose to become aware of other factors that contribute to disease, as well as other methods to mitigate them.
‘Physician,’ Know Thyself
Furthermore, self-understanding will yield far greater dividends than understanding MMS. It will deal with the very issue that Archbishop Humble seems so afraid of now, namely fear. I’d rather know myself and be unafraid, than know MMS and yet be in fear. Knowing one’s self is a journey out of the Land of Fear.
Nothing wrong with scaring them. Well let me tell you that’s crazy. Adam can design his own universe in which all those things he says are unimportant are actually unimportant. But in this universe if by your actions, or by your inactions you cause someone to suffer, you can claim that you don’t have a guilty conscience until the cows come home and that still won’t be true. All those people who didn’t try MMS because Adam chose to scare them with his truth are his responsibility and he can tell the crowd that he has no guilty consciousness but that don’t make it so.
This form of logic has kept fearful people in a fearful place long before I ever came on the scene. He’s attempting to suggest that I am responsible for someone else’s fear, by my actions or inaction.
I wonder how the Archbishop’s followers are taking these pronouncements.
Well anyway, I’m not going to put the data here, but I do have a significant improvement in technology that if Adam and Grant really understood what they are talking about they should have been able to predict. My improvement consists of more than just a theory, it also produces observable results. That chapter they can read out of my book soon as it is published. But the fact is chlorine dioxide does show up in the body along with the sodium chlorite and they change back and forth to a certain extent. But there are scientific instruments that read chlorine dioxide ion by touch and nothing else can create that touch. So what do you do, say that those instruments also don’t know what they are doing.
Let me paraphrase: “Well, I’m not going to say it here, but I do have an improvement that Adam and Grant should have been able to predict, if they really understood what they were talking about.”
What he seems to be saying is that there are instruments that can conclusively confirm the presence of the chlorine dioxide ion (anion), or anything else for that matter. That was done in 1971 by Cornford, Frost, Herring, and McDowell, when they used emission spectroscopy in testing dichloroacetate, or DCA. Forty years later, the technology to do this, one way or another, is likely far less expensive.
All the religions in the world, and thousands of chemists who know about hundreds of different things, and a million mechanics all often think they have the truth and now along comes Grant and Adam so convinced that they know the truth they are willing to have people continue suffering because they have been scared by them.
It’s statements like this that bring your own motives today into question Jim. As you are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine. A fearful person is also entitled to their fear. It’s neither your power nor mine, to allay another’s fears. Our responsibility is to get over our own. It is also our reward, and liberator.
If a person asks me about MMS, as some have done, I will tell them what I know, which does not raise fear. It decreases. I will listen. I will suggest an option that, from my knowledge or experience, seems best for them. That may or may not include MMS. I send them places where they can do their own research, so that they know why they are making a decision, not based on my “supervision,” but on their own.
There are many ways to restore balance, and it begins with the mind and heart. It begins with vision and intention. If a person doesn’t have a vision that they have taken to heart, that is worth living for, then they will likely be strong candidates to wage war on some “enemy.” The “enemy” is within each of us. It is therefore our personal responsibility to make peace and find balance within our own space. It’s neither your call for anyone other than you, nor my call for anyone other than me.
Your truth is your truth and it might be right and might not.
Need I remind you that this fact also applies to you?
But even if it is the truth, that does not give you a license to scare someone who is suffering and who could maybe find relief. I find it extremely reprehensible that you would say that it is alright to scare people with the truth especially since you didn’t at the same time say that there has never been and evidence in the real world of a problem.
Thank you for taking umbrage over something I’ve never said, nor my actions have not suggested. This is why we are strangers today. I love and respect what you have done, but not how you are going about doing it.
That using MMS is extremely unlikely to ever cause a problem. I am also amazed at the number of people on this forum who also seem to believe that scaring people is OK.
Jim, IF you believe your statement above to be true, then you are out of touch.
IF “scared” people are coming to you asking for solace or clarification with which to build or rebuild their confidence, it also sounds as though you’re not doing a good job of helping them understand what the real problem is, including the fear.
Fear is as much part of a person’s health problem as any virus, bacteria, toxin, or heavy metal. It encourages us to listen to medical demagogues of all persuasions, and not including introspection and self-discovery and analysis in their process.
I suggested to you several years ago that a few days of training and a day or two of treatment doesn’t make a person knowledgeable about matters of healing. Yet, it’s not totally the time, but more so, what one is being taught.
The odd thing about this is that a willingness to see that the species of ClO2 produced by the MMS formula is almost instantly “reduced” and stabilized into ClO2-, the same form of molecule that Dr. Friedrich-Wilhelm Kuehne earned a patent for the compound, WF10, could increase safe safe and confident adoption profoundly.
Now “Consultations with Jim Humble”
So as I’m feeling that I’ve said enough, one of the three MMS Newsletter emails came in, sporting the above title, with the first sentence being, “Let Jim supervise your recovery to health.”
It goes on to outline the number of people Jim has treated personally in Africa, as well as the number of telephone calls and emails he or his secretaries have handled.
The donation is $200, which gets you Jim’s phone number in Mexico, email and Skype ID.
The issues that I have with this are not about the efficacy of “MMS.” They are about putting the “supervision” of your health recovery into another individual, whose “toolbox” is centered around MMS, with little to no emphasis on self-awareness and growth.
There does exist a way to restore health. To restore joy and vitality. We have layered this world with lies. I believe Jim Humble would probably agree with me on that one, since he has made the same observation himself. However, true healing requires an INNER harmonization, and unification. Fearfulness and healing do not go together.
MMS will not address these immeasurable factors. Letting Jim Humble “supervise” one’s healing will not address the immeasurable. Healing is not just an issue of the body. It is of the mind and spirit. It is an act of consciousness.
That’s how I see things now. There’s no obligation to agree. But this is why I’ve been “mum” on MMS. I am part of its history, to be sure. My goal is to discover, uncover, and activate the Divine Reset button that exists within myself. We all have one, but it’ll stay dormant if we persist in looking elsewhere.
I wish you and everyone who uses MMS, and who helps others to use it, only the best.
Here are some thoughts from Jordan Maxwell.
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; or close the wall up with our English dead… is a fitting description of the Common Man’s continuous fight for life and freedom. What I want to write about here, is the Smart Meter’s broadcast of VERY SPECIFIC microwave radiation which causes not only broken DNA, but also cell death.
This fact is supported by much published data, and is actually part of both college level biology AND “Advanced Placement” biology testing.
I will state clearly here, that we need to be preserving and passing on my research on the Sodium Chlorite-based MMS, for that is the only easily accessible countermeasure against the incredible damage being done.
Adam, you need to be doing another video….
Adam, you are absolutely right. There is no excuse for bad manners, and I DO seem to be developing them. Back in the day, when I was responding to MMSfraud and Footman, I had fun with it. Even those guys found some of it to be entertaining.
This isn’t interesting any longer.
At this point, I have all of the Book’s requirements regarding the Chlorite Matrix/MMS/WF10. It’s time to move on.
I don’t see the danger of chlorine dioxide (ClO2) compared to the ClO2- anion. Your writings and Grant Maanum’s helped me to find that there are many patents and patent applications that illustrate how useful in healthcare chlorine dioxide is. Many expound on the safety of chlorine dioxide in their patents and product info. I found one patent about the use of chlorine dioxide in the disinfection of oral cavities that goes to great lengths to ensure that none of the ClO2- anion contacts the tissue, since they claim that ClO2 is safe and that the ClO2- anion (which they name the “oxy-chlorine anion”) is “cytotoxic” or could cause lethal or sublethal damage to mammalian cells. “The cytotoxicity of chlorine dioxide-containing compositions results predominantly from the presence of oxy-chlorine anions”. https://www.google.ca/patents/US8293283?dq=chlorine+dioxide+treatment+AIDS&ei=bDQ5Uoc5qOHJAa-YgJAP
I do not see how chlorine dioxide can be considered pervasive, since it is an oxidizer and begins to break down as soon as it oxidizes something. Also, as I understand it, the first step in this process is that ClO2 becomes ClO2-, which sounds like an excellent thing, based on what you and Grant have illustrated about the Krebs cycle, etc.
As Lenntech says, “The following comparisons show what happens when chlorine dioxide reacts. First, chlorine dioxide takes up an electron and reduces to chlorite:
ClO2 + e- ® ClO2-
The chlorite ion is oxidized and becomes a chloride ion:
ClO2- + 4H+ + 4e- ® Cl- + 2H2O ”
I appreciate the valuable info that has been presented about the chlorite matrix and the ClO2- anion, but based on how well the use of a pure Chlorine Dioxide Solution (CDS) is working to recover my own step-son from his autism symptoms, I have a hard time believing that chlorine dioxide is dangerous when used properly and that there is no ClO2 (but only ClO2-) in the distilled version of MMS that I am using.
What is the scent that you smell when you mix up a drop of activated MMS? Is it ClO2 gas or ClO2- gas? I do not know, but whatever it is, is measurably recovering my step-son from autism. I don’t even know what is in the other 20% of the powder I use to mix up sodium chlorite solution from what is labelled as 80% sodium chlorite, but it is working well for us as is!
You are not worried that one electron recombines in the flux of indeterminable reagins within the body and becomes bleach again? Why take the risk using such an unstable molecule and just use a colloidal silver instead?.
Thankfully, others like Kerri Rivera have taken some personal risk in their own and their families’ lives before I came along. Fear of what might happen (but has not been shown to have happened in experience) will not allow for risk-takers and pioneers to forge a new pathway for others to follow.
ClO2 does not become bleach as it breaks down. It does have the ability to whiten or bleach things, but it does not transform to common bleach. This is why it is recommended in water treatment, since ClO2 will not form carcinogenic compounds when it oxidizes organic matter, but chlorine does do this. I have heard that there is something called colloidal silver, but have never researched it.
Over 100 have had their autism symptoms reduced to an ATEC score of 10 or below using chlorine dioxide and other anti-parasite protocols. Below a score of 30 is in the top 10 percentile of autism symptoms and scoring below 30 or 20 can mean independence and a bright future. 100 children scoring below 10 on this scale is a revolution in autism recovery!
So no, I am not worried what that one electron will do in our bodies, nor the other electrons that are used up along the way as ClO2 is reduced to chloride and sodium chloride, etc. Instead I am thankful to God that people like Kerri Rivera and Jim Humble have pioneered a way for my step-son to recover from autism. He continues to improve.
I’ll take continuing autism recovery today and figure out how it works some other time if need be.
Unstable molecule? Jeez, where do you people come up with this bullshit? Look to the ORIGINAL CHEMISTRY! Even Humble didn’t know what that ORIGINAL CHEMISTRY was, or that the ORIGINAL CHEMISTRY involved two stages of ELECTROLYSIS in order to produce the PURE SODIUM CHLORITE that was responsible for the ORIGINAL CHLORITE MATRIX.
So, let me return to the “unstable molecule” bullshit. The ONLY TIME the Sodium Chlorite can be unstable, is BEFORE it is diluted down to the useful 28% chlorite/72% distilled NON OZONATED WATER solution.
Does this fact speak to the basis of your opinion regarding the “unstable molecule” bullshit? Or do you refer to something else? Whatever it is, know this. Properly combined sodium chlorite/distilled NON OZONATED water must produce the 28% solution. IF that solution is correctly made, and any ONE of FIVE SUITABLE MILD ACIDS are properly added, the produced CHLORITE MATRIX CANNOT RETURN TO SODIUM CHLORITE.
Therefor, “bleach” cannot be created due to the consumption of the CHLORITE MATRIX.
I have researched the colloidal silver, and have determined that the sole advantage involves improved electrical communication inside of the cell. The effect is temporary at best, and does nothing to return the cell’s Citric Acid Cycle/Immune System to normal function.
Only the Chlorite Matrix heals your immune system.
Grant, a little patience please. FEW people take the time, or even know where to look into subjects beyond what gets them plausible answers. That certainly applied to me. I look more and deeper today than I did several years ago, but then I’ve had help from you. And the depth of my searching STILL doesn’t even go near things you’ve forgotten already. If people don’t get what you’re saying, they don’t get it. Simple as that. Berating them isn’t going to get them closer to the truth.
I know that you care for people, else you wouldn’t have bothered doing what you’ve done, for which I personally am grateful. Well, patience when people don’t get it, or agree, is part of caring too.
When you say “the produced CHLORITE MATRIX (ClO2-) CANNOT RETURN TO SODIUM CHLORITE (NaClO2),” I was going to ask if you meant that couldn’t return to chlorine dioxide (ClO2). However, it looks like you meant what you wrote. Once the light acid is added, which breaks up the sodium chlorite molecule (separating the sodium from the chlorine dioxide), then sodium chlorite isn’t reformed in the chemical milieu.
Thank you.
Adam…
Several very important TIMELINE issues must be considered when either researching or commenting on the ACTUAL SCIENCE of ClO2 (of chlorate). These timelines involve the quiet attack upon the Title 40 EPA. The GO/NO GO year is 2002, and at that time there was a NAFTA/GrandCo obligation to be met. The Canadian EPA was subsequently RESCINDED, and the US EPA was re-written PER SUPERFUND.
Because of these NAFTA/GrandCo obligations, countless severe chemicals were reclassified as safe.
To all of you novices wanting to base your ClO2 comments on fact. You must locate and study all pre-2002 US EPA findings on elemental Chlorine, and then locate and study all findings on the Sodium Chlorate-based Chlorine Dioxide. Having that TRUE fact-based knowledge, then look at the publications on ClO2- (of chlorite).
Thank you, Grant. I am all for the promotion of chlorite or the ClO2- anion for what it can do for our health and wellbeing. I thank you and Adam for bringing that to the attention of so many. It is very beneficial to have the insight that has been brought forward as to why the ClO2- anion would contribute to cellular health in humans.
You are right that most of us using or considering using this for our health and the health of our family are novices, just trying to come to some understanding of how what is often described as a potentially hazardous chemical could possibly be good to consume. There have been a lot of opinions expressed about how unsafe it must be and that therefore giving such a chemical to a child is a form of abuse. The children recovering from autism (and expelling huge volumes of worms and other parasites as they do) are happier, healthier and are recovering through using chlorine dioxide – or if you are right only through the use of the ClO2- anion. So there is plenty of empirical and anecdotal evidence for parents that there is definitely more benefit than harm involved here.
I do have a couple of questions that you may be able to answer:
– How would you prevent such an oxidative molecule as ClO2, no matter how it was produced, from taking up an electron, as Lenntech describes, and becoming the ClO2- anion?
– Do you believe that the gas that is now being distilled from solutions of sodium chlorite and HCl and dissolved into water, called Chlorine Dioxide Solution (CDS) is actually a solution of ClO2- anions and not chlorine dioxide? Places such as Keavy’s are now selling and shipping such a product. Most are making it themselves, using either citric acid or HCl to lower the sodium chlorite solution pH and release this gas. This is what is measurably recovering my step-son from his autism symptoms.
Addressing paragraph I; (quote from rfu.org/health) “Chlorine Dioxide is a severe short and long term respiratory irritant at levels above 0.1 parts per million. NOTE! You can’t smell the ClO2 (OF CHLORATE) until it’s concentration is ABOVE 100 PARTS PER BILLION.
The Worker’s Comp Board has lowered the 8 Hour Exposure Level to 0.5 parts per million. “The characteristic response to Chlorine Dioxide (OF CHLORATE) exposure is “Reactive Airway Disfunction Syndrome”.
Don. That is EXACTLY the health issue that I developed from being exposed to Chlorine Dioxide OF CHLORATE, and I cured that issue by using Humble’s MMS. It worked even though i KNOW that it contains a certain amount of Sodium Chlorate.
Paragraph II; ClO2 OF CHLORATE is ABSOLUTELY PERVASIVE. You “don’t see” because you don’t do the research. Regarding the danger ClO2 OF CHLORATE to humanity or other living organisms, the DIOXIN (ClO2 OF CHLORATE) enters fat cells and does not break down. That dioxin also enters groundwater, and once it is out of sunlight (In river sediment) it truly does begin it’s long lasting pervasive lifespan. You mention “oxidation”. SUNLIGHT is what breaks down the deadly DIOXIN we know as ClO2 (OF CHLORATE).
Paragraph III; More bs about whatever it is that Lenntech is is trying to bullshit their way through. Don, I have explained the importance of CREATING the PURE BASE MATERIAL (sodium chlorite) through using THE ONLY METHOD KNOWN. That method is ELECTROLYSIS. Any lab rat worth DICK is going to know the procedure and the materials. Humble didn’t know, and Humble stated CLEARLY that Lenntech DIDN’T KNOW! So, I told Humble how create easily controlled small amounts of PURE Sodium Chlorite in a posting in one of Adam’s blogs. Don. Your regurged equations have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHLORITE MATRIX.
Paragraph IV and V; Reference to CDS. Don, once again the CDS snake rears it’s UGLY head. I have received many such questions regard WHAT IS IN THE CDS GAS. I did take the time to look at the POSSIBILITIES, but there were too many unknowns. How so? Let’s consider the ORIGINAL Chlorite Matrix. WE KNOW that the pure ingredients involved only TWO MOLECULES. One was the Sodium Chlorite, the other was the Acetic Acid molecule. Mixing them produced two states of matter, liquid and gas. Both were written as ClO2-.
IF…. The CDS was being produced from those PURE INGREDIENTS, i could certainly tell you that the CDS is ClO2- (Sodium Chlorite) in a gaseous state.
Don, what if there IS an active oxidizer present and it is consumed or inhaled? What can be done?
I began researching that exact issue, and identified the cancers (and other issues) which are caused by these “heavy” oxidizers. There is ONLY ONE “drug” that absolutely CURES such issues. It is a Plant-Based, Oxidative Stress-relieving, Cancer curing material named PROTANDIM. Look it up in PubMed.
Grant.
Hi Grant.
When you got cured with Jim Humble’s MMS, was there any other medicine at that time, that would of don better? Most, or the small amont of the sodium chlorate in MMS would not be nutralized by MMS?
How would this small amount would compare to all the polutants and dioxins all around us all the time, like if a guy driving in his Volvo around those mountains in Kamloops, or a guy smoke his pipe in his smoking room, how much dioxins going into the air and the environment?
What is your opininion about vitamin B3 to detoxify dioxins from the fat cells of the body?
They say vitamin B3 could damage the liver in high doses, but beer and alcohol will do the same in high doses. But people using now drugs for cholestorol, cost more and it comes with some side effects. No side effects from vitamin B3.
But people also stopped using coconut oil, as they thought it was dangerous, so they started using soy and canola oil. But coconut oil is very benefisial for hundreds of health issues, and in the tropics people used it for thousand of years, and cancer, and heart desase was unknown to them.
I use MMS when I need it, MMS can fix a lot, but if the problem is from some deficiency, MMS can not fix the deficiency, the deficiency will be still there.
You were going to write obout prill beads also, and Im waqiting for your article.
I’m new to this whole discussion, so forgive my ignorance. My husband is currently taking MMS hourly (or trying to) in order to solve digestive problems that have plagued him for many years after taking 2 courses of antibiotics in preparation for trips to Africa. I am concerned about the MMS treatment, but his condition really is becoming extreme and none of the other remedies he has tried have helped.
I have a question. After he mixes the solution, the house smells so strongly of chlorine that I wonder if it is unhealthy for the rest of the family. Are the fumes dangerous?
Adam, thank you so much for your comments about the role of the heart and mind in disease. I think fear and separation are the cause of our perceived illnesses, and unity and love are the remedies. Thank you for reminding me again 🙂
Christy, there are many variables that need to be addressed in order to assess whether a risk threshold has been crossed.
How many drops is he taking?
How frequently?
What is “extreme” about his condition?
Please understand that there are *many* ways to correct such conditions, not just one.
MMS has helped multitude of people, but your husband’s problem isn’t too little MMS. It is an imbalance that needs to be understood and corrected.
The antibiotics may have triggered the pathology, but conditions that have compromised his immune system (including microbial populations) appear to be sustaining it.
Immune system retarding factors can include:
• cellular water intake (hydration)
• mineral status
• anaerobic overgrowth (yeast, candida, etc)
• frequent intake of dehydrating beverages (coffee, carbonated drinks, alcohol, “energy” drinks, etc.)
• municipal water (shower, cooking, etc.)
• unhealthy lighting in the home or workplace.
• ATTITUDE (tendency to worry, lose temper, criticize, hold grudges, etc.)
• MISSING PASSION – the absence of an area of exploration, discovery, or involvement that he ABSOLUTELY LOVES.
Just a few suggestions. This isn’t solely about MMS. Don’t pigeonhole yourselves into only seeing a potential solution through it.
This doesn’t meant MMS is dangerous or can’t help. Just that your field of causes and effects (remedies) is much broader.
Best wishes,
Adam
Christy,
As to your concern about the house smelling like chlorine, it is good to know that there should be no actual chlorine gas released from chlorine dioxide, unless it is exposed to bright sunlight. Chlorine dioxide gas (or ClO2- anion gas in MMS?) does smell similar to chlorine gas and is dangerous to breathe in very strong concentrations, but the little amount from mixing up a few drops should be no concern, since many people use it daily.
My step-son drinks strong amounts of chlorine dioxide dissolved in water every day (also hourly when he can). He is 17. Along with thousands of other children and adults with autism, he is recovering from autism symptoms in a rapid and measurable way. These recovering children have brought to light one other factor that affects the health of many, which is parasitic infections/infestations. This could be a factor in your husband’s condition also. These recovering children (and often many in their immediate families) end up passing parasites in their stool and the more they are rid of these, the more they recover from autism symptoms. The chlorine dioxide also helps to restore balance by killing off many undesirable microbes which contribute to ill-health, leaving room to replenish the gut with healthy flora from fermented foods, probiotics, etc.
One other factor that has been crucial in helping those with autism to recover is to replenish minerals by drinking an isotonic concentration of ocean water (which supplies minerals in a very bioavailable manner). An isotonic dilution simply means the ocean water is diluted to match what is used in sports drinks or hospital IV saline bags to promote rehydration and absorption of the minerals.
Thank you Don- and so glad to hear your son is having success-
The FDA House Arrest, as well as most of the other controversies Jim finds himself in, associated with the Chlorine chemical compound he’s selling, are mostly organized falsely as a strategy to control opposition and get people on the juice. Let me explain. These days we have been inundated with information about various conspiracies within the mainstream of the health sciences industries, including dentistry and the food supply, and there has certainly been a loss of credibility suffered by the FDA and like minded groups, as a result of a growing awareness that they exist not to serve the peoples interests but Corporations, while they approve of all kinds of toxic chemicals for use in foods and other products. On the other side of that coin they work very closely with the folks who make up the rules for what is the safe daily allowance of various poisons, which, by the way, they keep on increasing for no particular reason at all! This also means there are large groups of us who probably will have a strong tendency to feel that when they condemn something, that those items might actually be good for us! Utilizing these current trends with the intent of getting people to enjoy a daily mug of MMS is a psyops marketing ploy to get you to take a harmful substance in the name of Alternative, naturapathic, two tiered medical systems – There are many names, but it doesn’t amount to any more than plain deceit
I purchased and started taking MMS when I began to experience some strange muscle loss 2 years ago. I used it in the amounts specified in the Jims protocol. I almost convinced myself it could be the holy grail, yet thought it strange that I always had the urge to puke bitterly quite often whenever I took any of the Magical Miracle Mineral. Honestly folks, puking is most obvious sign that your body does not appreciate the insult you are attempting to put into it. Thanks to a website I found that is absolutely adamantly against Jim humbles selling MMS and his cure claims. Because of their effort I was able to rethink and research the stuff from a new perspective and finally changed my mind due to the weight of the evidence against it. The site, which I will recommend to everyone, is called Healthwyze.org. I warn you, there is an enormous amount of incredibly useful, logical information which has been organized and smart filtered to give you all kinds of relevant papers to what you are looking at. In a word, you wont find a more honest, down home source of information this good, anywhere on the net. If you are interested, check out the online debate between Jim Humble and Sarah C. Corriher. Humble did a lot beating around the bush, in between making quite a few distracting patronizing comments which comes off as disrespect… Oh, and his rambling and self adoration is equally as annoying as he attempts to take things over a persons head so you don’t have to think. His offer is that he will do the thinking for you. He never actually get to the point of the questions and in my book and loses all credibility. The idea he wants to sell you is that MMS is not harmful to your living cells like its brother Chlorine bleach, because it ONLY targets pathogens. The conversion of (NaCLO2) Sodium Chlorite, or Chlorine Bleach into (CLO2)Magical Mineral Supplement, MMS, Chlorine dioxide happens when adding a low PH acid. An Alkaline, or an increase in PH can cause unwanted chemical reactions to occur. The problem is very plain. MMS may actually work as described in the lab environment, although to my knowledge, there has never been any release of scientific study papers proving this, which is definitely more than a little backwards, so I cannot say for certain. However, the reality is, your body is made up of an ever changing stew of varying PH levels. There are a wide variety of elements and minerals for the Chlorine to react with, which result in a variety of chlorine compounds being formed within you, some of which are going to be harmful.
AJ
It looks like you took out Grants response and your response after it, so I will add it back what I have in my email (although it is not the whole works) so my response will make sense. I was not offended by Grants email, but it was kind of you to consider that I might have been. I appreciate the fact you both took the time to write back. Phaelosopher, if you are able to put the entire message back up, please do so! Thanks!
phaelosopher commented on MMS: A Break in the Silence.
in response to grant:
Unstable molecule? Jeez, where do you people come up with this bullshit? Look to the ORIGINAL CHEMISTRY! Even Humble didn’t know what that ORIGINAL CHEMISTRY was, or that the ORIGINAL CHEMISTRY involved two stages of ELECTROLYSIS in order to produce the PURE SODIUM CHLORITE that was responsible for the ORIGINAL CHLORITE MATRIX. So, let me […]
Grant, a little patience please. FEW people take the time, or even know where to look into subjects beyond what gets them plausible answers. That certainly applied to me. I look more and deeper today than I did several years ago, but then I’ve had help from you. And the depth of my searching STILL doesn’t even go near things you’ve forgotten already. If people don’t get what you’re saying, they don’t get it. Simple as that. Berating them isn’t going to get them closer to the truth.
I know that you care for people, else you wouldn’t have bothered doing what you’ve done, for which I personally am grateful. Well, patience when people don’t get it, or agree, is part of caring too.
When you say “the produced CHLORITE MATRIX (ClO2-) CANNOT RETURN TO SODIUM CHLORITE (NaClO2),” I was going to ask if you meant that couldn’t return to chlorine dioxide (ClO2). However, it looks like you meant what you wrote. Once the light acid is added, which breaks up the sodium chlorite molecule (separating the sodium from the chlorine dioxide), then sodium chlorite isn’t reformed in the chemical milieu.
Thank you.
Adam…
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Please check out this article,
http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/320-jim-humbles-mms-fraud.html
I agree with some of what Sarah has written. The idea that this corrosive poison is going to only damage only the bad pathogens and not your cells is not very believable. Hunbles reasoning for MMS’s safety, is that the redox potential is lower on all undesirable pathogens and therefore, the only things the MMS corrodes and kills. Redox changes as acidity so what do you think happens in stomach, with all that acid in there? It would make sense that the pain and sickness one experiences when ingesting MMS is due to it damaging the stomach lining, not curing your ills. I am not saying people havent noticed some positive results from it since it does indeed kill. I suspect ingesting it over the long term, MMS will destroy the bloodvessesls, scaring them up really good, providing the perfect breeding ground for pathogens and unwanted hard deposits setting the stage for a heart attack.
AJ.
Talking about Newsletters saw one about approved and unapproved MMS suppliers, monthly payments to G2C, if in three months you have back payments you struck of the list it says, how about some of that money going to help get Daniel Smith and his family released for starters, that surely would be a good deed:0), at least it would be money spent on a promise by G2C to protect members and good people in general.. Just an after thought, perhaps you have Jim’s ear and the good Archbishops can agree that this should be a priority, surely a deal can still be made for the release of an innocent man.
Great to see intelligent articles such as yours, there’s more than one way to skin a cat, why the obsession with MMS with some people when the universe has so much more to offer.